DUST Search - Concerning This!

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Look you and I both know we don't like things that are done half ass or quater mule or anything less than the best.

However we have to come to certain terms.

PS3 has only 256x2 mb of memory available to us; (unknown page file size but that's for on demand things like mail and whatnot for less than commonly called up resources not second to second demanded needs for animation.)

Now here's where things get a bit nasty a significant portion consumed (40%) by the PS3 OS itself.

SO 40% of 256 MB is about 102.4 MB

You want to know what else is 102.4 MB large?

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/007/8/f/soe_oberon_by_novafox-d4lkb73.jpg

Actually j/k; the raws of this picture is 1.2 gigs memory; features only 120 undo steps, 52 layers, doesn't even animate, interact, or do anything fancy; its nice to be able to save it as a JPG though but that cuts all the features out. Editing Software runs on 800mb; os+support at 2gb

So now keep that in mind right now.

Now for a revelation I have heard at fanfest that I think would not do any harm in revealing.

Guess which vehicle has been in the dust 514 since near closed beta client but never seen?

Amarr HAV? Nope
Amarr LAV? Nope
Amarr DS? Nope
Amarr MCC? Nope
Minmatar HAV? Nope
Minmatar LAV? Nope
Minmatar DS? Nope
Minmatar MCC? Nope
MTACs? you wished.
Speeders? in your dreams
VTOLS? I wished...
MAVs? Don't we all?

I can list a dozen more ideas but the point remains that the Gallente RDV which has been in the game for such a long time hasn't made a debute because of the simple fact we are out of memory.

People we hit the limits of the ps3. We hit it long time ago. Yes you can yell that maybe dust 514 is terribly put together that doesn't change the fact that in order to get new models in; the others will have to take a hit in looks; performance; appearance; and essentially all have to be remodeled again in order to fit.

Chopping an HAV in half will not magically give us the memory we need; hell in order to shove one new HAV in we have to chop the three to 1/10th most likely because this will cover the physics, animations (yes the HAVs animate); sound rules; and so much more.

The same exact reason why MAG characters couldn't be customized; they too hit that limit. Probably the very damn reason why you will never see planetside 2 on the ps3 because of not the sheer number of people the game could throw at it but rather the sheer number of possible LOOKS (and physics and sounds) people can throw at it.

Look I too want to see proper models for everything I really do; one of my largest gripes with the other game. However in the sake of name of fun; balance; content; and time management. These well done reskins will hold until the day we either figure out how to magically make everything cost less memory or we just suddenly get a whole lot more of it.

Hell if you guys knew what sort of things are missing from even the current models due to low memory...


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Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 411	Posted - 2015.04.12 06:09:00 - [1] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Look you and I both know we don't like things that are done half ass or quater mule or anything less than the best. However we have to come to certain terms. PS3 has only 256x2 mb of memory available to us; (unknown page file size but that's for on demand things like mail and whatnot for less than commonly called up resources not second to second demanded needs for animation.) Now here's where things get a bit nasty a significant portion consumed (40%) by the PS3 OS itself. SO 40% of 256 MB is about 102.4 MB You want to know what else is 102.4 MB large? http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/007/8/f/soe_oberon_by_novafox-d4lkb73.jpg Actually j/k; the raws of this picture is 1.2 gigs memory; features only 120 undo steps, 52 layers, doesn't even animate, interact, or do anything fancy; its nice to be able to save it as a JPG though but that cuts all the features out. Editing Software runs on 800mb; os+support at 2gb So now keep that in mind right now. Now for a revelation I have heard at fanfest that I think would not do any harm in revealing. Guess which vehicle has been in the dust 514 since near closed beta client but never seen? Amarr HAV? Nope Amarr LAV? Nope Amarr DS? Nope Amarr MCC? Nope Minmatar HAV? Nope Minmatar LAV? Nope Minmatar DS? Nope Minmatar MCC? Nope MTACs? you wished. Speeders? in your dreams VTOLS? I wished... MAVs? Don't we all? I can list a dozen more ideas but the point remains that the Gallente RDV which has been in the game for such a long time hasn't made a debute because of the simple fact we are out of memory. People we hit the limits of the ps3. We hit it long time ago. Yes you can yell that maybe dust 514 is terribly put together that doesn't change the fact that in order to get new models in; the others will have to take a hit in looks; performance; appearance; and essentially all have to be remodeled again in order to fit. Chopping an HAV in half will not magically give us the memory we need; hell in order to shove one new HAV in we have to chop the three to 1/10th most likely because this will cover the physics, animations (yes the HAVs animate); sound rules; and so much more. The same exact reason why MAG characters couldn't be customized; they too hit that limit. Probably the very damn reason why you will never see planetside 2 on the ps3 because of not the sheer number of people the game could throw at it but rather the sheer number of possible LOOKS (and physics and sounds) people can throw at it. Look I too want to see proper models for everything I really do; one of my largest gripes with the other game. However in the sake of name of fun; balance; content; and time management. These well done reskins will hold until the day we either figure out how to magically make everything cost less memory or we just suddenly get a whole lot more of it. Hell if you guys knew what sort of things are missing from even the current models due to low memory... I feel we should as a community come up with things that are inputed into this game that aren't necessarily needed and can be scraped and removed. I'd hate to see this game get nothing really "new". Otherwise we won't be seeing much of anything new at all. I feel to completely remove the Warbage Loft in Pubs it's not really needed but still appears. To be rid of the blasted electricity coming from those damned buildings and the fire rings in the Research facility (lag central) To get rid of some of the components in the Merc Quarters that are not really needed but there. To get rid of unused variants of guns such as the Burst ScR Pistol and others. *To get rid of the Characters Race pic in the chats but they'll appear in the character info Any ideas?? I feel every little bit counts True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 413	Posted - 2015.04.12 18:47:00 - [2] - Quote Well maybe not that then, but I still feel we need to be more observant and find things in this game that we as a community do not need. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 413	Posted - 2015.04.13 04:43:00 - [3] - Quote I like those ! Restricting access to the chat has 2 upsides, reducing memory and keeping damn mercs focused on the game lol (I fly my ADS and read and type mail) (don't fly and reply!) And removal and clearing of cache chat channels True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
Apocalyptic Destroyer L.O.T.I.S. 422	Posted - 2015.04.19 20:38:00 - [4] - Quote Hey I bump for seriousness. True Amarr In Disguise Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body. In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.